Are the Tories Dead for Good?

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What does James Cleverly think of Nigel Farage and Reform? How does Cleverly explain his unexpected exit from the Tory leadership race? What could the future of AI in Great Britain look like under different leadership?

Sir James Cleverly joins Rory and Alastair to answer all these questions and more.

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Based on the transcript:

0:00 — Cold open: Starmer, Farage, Brexit and political polarisation
0:52 — IG
1:56 — James Cleverly on the Tory leadership contest
7:14 — Cleverly’s family background and mixed-race childhood
11:40 — Racism, the National Front and growing up in 1970s London
13:05 — Joining the Army and the pressure of being a black officer
16:06 — Race, assumptions and whether politics is too quick to condemn
17:12 — JD Vance, Trump and American attacks on Britain
24:22 — How Britain should handle Trump’s White House
27:35 — Cleverly’s attack on Starmer’s diplomacy
31:21 — Why Labour and the Tories are both collapsing
35:17 — Should politicians chase voters or stick to principles?
36:30 — Vauxhall
37:35 — Tory defections, Reform and the humiliation ritual of switching sides
41:53 — Robert Jenrick’s political transformation
44:34 — Brexit, Farage and why the main parties won’t confront it
49:48 — Why Cleverly was moved from Foreign Secretary
51:02 — Britain’s dependence on America and China
54:38 — Cleverly’s verdicts on Sunak, Truss and Johnson
59:28 — Why politicians are failing to grapple with AI
1:04:20 — Why Cleverly is a Conservative
1:05:31 — Would Cleverly run for Mayor of London?
1:06:36 — Why Cleverly rules out a deal with Nigel Farage
1:11:45 — Debrief